Tantus wrote:I haven't attributed any events to Kaelus and that was the point, nothing substantial happened there. The storyline your 'advanced roleplayer' friends had envisioned was barely touched upon. I'm not bitching about these people, after all these years, it's amused me to hear they ran from Tarnwald calling us Lifestylers, then opened a GE sim with overtones of homosexual bondage.
I couldn't make this up, it's above my creative scope.
Feel free to post anything you were told about Laura, I'm open to further comedy from your friends.
If I were sexist, Tantus, I would say you're typically bitching like a -girl-.......
The lore of Kaelus and its role play were consistant. I know of no sim which had opened with such a lore. This story was intensively played by the two factions which fought each other.
No group ran from Tarnwald in calling Tarnwald players lifestylers. A group left Tarnwald after your stupid notice, resuming the situation with these words: "again that same old school Gor crap".
The sim was not GE, has never been GE. In fact, it was one of the most BTB sims on the Gor grid. We required a BTB dress code and we were very strict about it. We set a few rules that were very seldom enforced in other sims, like the use of NPCs, we prevented random slavesto go serve in establishments which didn't own them. We limited the number of exceptional characters and enforced many of these details which at the end create an authentic Gorean environment, in the respect of the culture such as described by Norman.
Yes, at the end, there were many gay characters. It had been an issue when some of these players played these characters in a way that was not very plausible in a Gorean environment (warriors speaking of the sexual skills of their "slut boys" in public areas for example). We addressed them, some refused to adjust and left.
When the admin team and owners lost their motivation, we closed the sim. The traffic at this moment turned still around 16K, which was decent.
About Laura, I asked you to tell us how you removed Ubar Cassius from power. You made clear it happened through your own actions.
From what I have been told, you gave yourself a credit you didn't deserve. In fact, all this RP was described to me like a crapshow (ubar captured, then got his head was cut off and the player eventually banned all the protagonists from Laura).
With my conception of political RP, I supposed you had gotten allies in Ar (maybe, the Taurentians) and convinced them to depose the ubar. After, I figured you had built a few new schemes in order to name a pupper ubar who would have allowed an occupation by Laura. This town would have dictated the conditions for a peace and at the end, by the means of pawns put in position of authority within Ar, ruled that city...
Sorry, I'm not impressed by a mere capture.
But eh, feel free to give your own version.
Tantus wrote:Well done, you comprehend the basics of roleplaying. Practically everyone I've roleplayed understood the basics but no one ever made a big deal about it. They just roleplayed.
Actually, in environments like ROAIF, these basics are common standards, perfectly understood and applied by 99% of players.
In Gor... Well, re-read Leah's posts, lol lol!
Tantus wrote:The theme we were discussing was the journey towards a sim's ending. Have the characters accomplished their goals, has there been a shift in dynamics, will the journey end in a fitting climax or has the sim flopped without consequence.
A role play is not a video game, Tantus. In role play, you can focus on your characters, their emotions, sentiments, personal evolution, dramas, ordeals, etc. Who they love, who they hate, how they blossom or the opposite in a particular situation/event/storyline.
You only see games to win... Characters are for you like some pawns you move on a chessboard. Quests to fill, combats to win, purposes to reach. Rather superficial for those like me who want to explore the different aspects of our humane nature through our fictive characters and the situation they face. These purposes are, so, more as a background for our character.
Tantus wrote:We've dissected a sample of ten 'advanced roleplaying' sims and strangely enough, they all withered within the first two months. With not a single one accomplishing advanced roleplaying themes. The question is 'why'. With all the lore, the applications, the admin guidance, why is there a pattern of consecutive failures.
In fact, Tantus, you bitched and extrapoled, projecting your own prejudices about places where you never RPed and people with whom you never interacted IC'ly. You keep repeatiting yourself.
Tantus wrote:I understand why you routinely resort to a list of 'Roleplaying Basics 101', it's to keep the discussion where you're comfortable, in beginner's class.
Not exactly, Tantus... I had again to explain to you why I prefer to role play with friends. Because they aren't RP noobs, unlike so many guys in SL Gor who don't even know what is a NPC and can't even take turns in posting.
Tantus wrote:Hold on to your feminist horses.
We don't call women derogatory terms out of respect. But bitch and cunt are acceptable under the right circumstances so don't push it!
I'm definitely a feminist, indeed. As should be any decent person... Being feminist is just that: An advocate of social, economic, educative, political and legal rights for women, equal to those of men. No big deal
I see nothing wrong at calling a woman a coward if she deserved it. I'm perfectly comfortable at calling a man, a bitch and a cunt...
And it's not that I want to push it, but if you want to call me a bitch and a cunt, well, feel free, I should survive
After all, in the eyes of some individuals we're always a bitch and we can't please everyone, hmmm? (nor we want it)