I'm going to attempt to explain why this bothers me so much, and answer some of the questions here. I was going to leave this alone, but it bugged me so much I had to respond.
I get that they're saying gay characters and not gay people, but this is still an issue. It's an issue, because it's marginalizing a real group of people based on a subjective view of the novels.
@ Leah - Yes, I'm an admin in Ar. My character's owner, however, travels often and I go with him. I also have alts. I've always been honest about that fact. Being an admin does not preclude me from enjoying other roleplay sims. It isn't a competition to me, it's going out and enjoying various things. Being an admin OOC, does not reflect what happens IC.
@ Oor - "Maybe your friend is different - maybe playing his/her feminised, homosexual male slave and receiving the consequent IC homophobia that should go along with it would be fun for him to play - but I see why the risk isn't worth it for admins."
Yeah, I do see the risk, and yeah I get your point, but that's the heart of my issue with this. It's one thing to let things happen naturally through roleplay, another to ban on sight. Funny enough, when I met this character IC (who is feminine looking), I didn't think they were homosexual. At all. I was honestly surprised to find out later they were. This person gave every tavern slave a run for their money. At the time, I saw it purely as an aesthetic choice.
I mean, do they ban all the warriors with motorcycle tats and piercings? Probably not.
This is the issue, right here:
[14:48] Melisande Moisant: No of course not - they should roleplay out sex and rape. Those are very Gorean things. Homosexual sex and rape and behavior is not really part of the genre here. It's a genre issue, not the issue of bigotry. It is about the feel of what makes an environment Gorean. We have also asked for other special characters not to be allowed. And I'm not asking that of them at all. there are people who are transgendered who come to SL and people who have a wheelchair because of their disability who come to SL. And there are people who live with hearing loss who come to SL. These are also things you would not see in Gor. The science of medicine is beyond it. People are deal with being elderly in real life - we ask that they not play that here. Because in Gor, we had the serums. This is not bigotry. It is the genre. He simply eliminated things. There are also people who have children in real life, and they like to come here to SL to play having a family, or having kids, and they want those kids to be
[14:48] Melisande Moisant: played out. That is wonderful! We ask that it not be part of the BtB Gor sim in Porto f Hesius.
1) No of course not - they should roleplay out sex and rape. -- I do not agree with anyone saying that any slave character should roleplay out sex and rape 100% of the time. I never will. Trust me, I know it's roleplay. Roleplay is my job. I'm an actor IRL.
Occasionally though, and I can't always predict when, a scene will begin to make me uncomfortable. I reserve the right to FTB on those occasions. To date, I've never had to FTB anything, only chose to. That doesn't mean it won't happen. For my own well-being, I'll choose to say "Hey, I'd like to FTB this scene, can we fast forward and decide how it ends?" or any other variant of that.
There are tons of new players out there that don't realize FTB is a thing. How many of them sat through RP that was uncomfortable because they felt like they had to, or they'd lose their friends or RP home? It's easy to say "Well they should know better" but let's face it, cognitive distortion in response to sexual assault is a real thing. It's our duty as members of the human fucking race to not be jerks to each other.
2)And there are people who live with hearing loss who come to SL. - I had a mute slave in Gor for years. A lot of you knew her. She was a great story. Would she be banned on sight from the sim? I never once was.
3) "Oh, but what if they want to play a Kur and they say no. It's the same thing!"
No, it isn't. It isn't because Kurii aren't a real life group of people who have spent centuries being beaten, killed, tortured, and marginalized because they were born that way.
4) You wouldn't allow elves as a character in gor, because it's not in the books!
No, you wouldn't. But elves aren't a real life group of people who have spent centuries being beaten, killed, tortured, and marginalized because they were born that way.
5) Why is it not clearly in the rules?
Unless you put it across the board, screen every person who comes in, and BAN every character with gray hair, a single homosexual tendency (and that includes female, even though Mel only specifically said male gay characters), no scars, no medical conditions, no stretch marks, no hearing loss, no limb loss, etc then yes, it is bigoted. And it's bigoted in the worst way because you're hiding behind a genre. Would you ban a barbarian slave girl who grew up Jewish? Have you?
There are no albinos in the books, but I saw an albino slave girl in Hesius. Why didn't you ban her?
That's the issue. Let me guess, it's ok to send a friendly IM to the albino slave girl to tell her that's not quite fitting in with the genre and please change her skin, but you banned an outwardly gay appearing male slave.
You banned the character. You didn't ask them to change. That means this avatar cannot come back with a different looking character (one that perhaps isn't homosexual if they choose to play that). You don't even give them a chance. You banned them. Banning the character rather than asking them to change is the issue. It's an issue, because banning assumes that all the characters will be gay. It makes it an OOC issue, not an IC one.
If it makes you feel better about yourself to hide behind an outdated set of novels that were written in a time when homosexuality was a disease to be eradicated, rather than joining every other enlightened person on the earth who realizes it isn't, it's how people are born, then sorry (not sorry).. I'm still going to call you on it.