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Cassie
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Free Woman Courting

Postby Cassie » Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:16 pm

I understand how a man can approach and become interested in a free woman and start to court her but I was wondering how the opposite works.

Does the woman get a chance to choose at all in any way? I was thinking of doing this IC and create some really funny and embarrassing moments but I am not finding the information I need to do this in a proper manner.
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Re: Free Woman Courting

Postby Eve Cartier » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:30 pm

Blow his mind.

Walk up to him, drop to your knees in front of him and in one hand raise a collar, in the other hand, raise a Companionship contract. Lift your eyes and say "Choose one".
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Re: Free Woman Courting

Postby Sasi » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:47 pm

Though on Gor the free maiden is by custom expected to see her future companion only after her parents have selected him, it is common knowledge that he is often a youth she has met in the marketplace. He who speaks for her hand, especially if she is of low caste, is seldom unknown to her, although the parents and the young people as well solemnly act as though this were the case. The same maiden whom her father must harshly order into the presence of her suitor, the same shy girl who, her parents approvingly note, finds herself delicately unable to raise her eyes in his presence, is probably the same girl who slapped him with a fish yesterday and hurled such a stream of invective at him that his ears still smart, and all because he accidentally happened to be looking in her direction when an unpredictable wind had, in spite of her best efforts, temporarily disarranged the folds of her veil.

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Re: Free Woman Courting

Postby Cassie » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:07 pm

Its incredible how little material there is to use for this idea. In truth while trying to be ironic with the whole situation I do want to still follow a gorean way.

When I think of your quote Sasi and what I know about the way women were given I do find myself having to do just that. Emote interest and give looks, act giggly and shit. It is limiting still but not all surprised.

I dare suppose such is the limit of roleplaying a free woman with a crush without aiming for a collar. But a free woman should not wish any man to companion her for her true affection but only for family interest right? I dare think a woman in a good position could push herself further than that, maybe even use family influence.
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Re: Free Woman Courting

Postby Ghost » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:22 am

Ah the old "fish slapping face foreplay" routine, a taste of things to come.

Being subtle about interest in a man has always been a problem for women, so what did you do at 17? Laugh at his jokes? talk to your friends, talk to his friends?

In many many ways the problem with Gorean FWRP is that these are older women if the serums are in effect, who are expected to act like 17 year olds, 20 somethings or the like, from an age when being under 21 was seen as being a child still. I swear JN had Gone with the wind in mind when he wrote some of this stuff.

Use courtship RP, if it must be done at all, as a way of including others in RP. Toss out the one false move and you get collared bunkum, no simpering required.
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Re: Free Woman Courting

Postby Sasi » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:21 am

FW are not required to please, their method of flirting is not about sweet smiles and encouragements to men courting them...

A FW of high caste of or wealth (like the daughter of a rich merchant for example), possibly, would glance at the man with disdain, would show haughtiness and very probably, anyway, she would never meet him alone, but maybe while on her way, when, duly escorted, she leaves the safety of her family home to go to visit some other free maidens of her friends.
Fact is that she will certainly make sure in a way or another, that the man that her father may consider as potential future companion, will notice her and get his interest aroused. But I doubt she does it in an manner showing obviously that she wants to please him. Slaves do their best to please men, not free women.

FW of low castes and low station have certainly more freedom to express themselves with less elegance (cf. the quote I gave)

And they are probably mostly FCed between the age of 16 and 20...
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Re: Free Woman Courting

Postby Eve Cartier » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:10 pm

ooorrrr...

Since a Companionship is usually run more like a business deal, set a RP in the same manner.

Invite him for a business proposition, prepare the equivalent of a Gorean Power Point presentation, complete with statistics, Corp. speak and graphs to explain why the combining of your two houses would be financially beneficial for you both.

"So, if you will flip to page 2.9-31 you will see that our analysis shows that per your last Companion downsizing there is now an open seat at the table. I believe that if are willing to accept a paradigm shift you will find that executing a partnership will allow us both to form new metric milestones through the combination of our revenue mix, thereby creating a win-win solution for us both."

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Re: Free Woman Courting

Postby Eve Cartier » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:19 pm

As a side note, while a first Companionship might happen when they are a young adult I don't think that means a whole lot.

After all, a Companionship is renewed every year. Tack onto that the fact Goreans live hundreds of years and a Free Woman could, literally, have hundreds of Companionships in her life.

That said, if she found a man she could trust and he felt she provided all wanted/needed from her then it is probably likely they would stay together for many years.

I'm just reminding everyone that a Companionship does not equal a marriage. Partners could be changed up often and with their long ages, they probably were. Which likely meant that despite the comments about parents choosing a Companion for a woman, at some point, she's probably pretty grown up, with many children, and isn't afraid of letting her voice be heard in the picking.

If I was 200 years old and had been through a couple Companions, I sure as hell wouldn't sit quietly by and bat my lashes while my brother or sons picked a Companion for me.

If there is one thing we see in Gorean FW over and over, it's that they aren't afraid to speak their minds.
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Re: Free Woman Courting

Postby Anarch Allegiere » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:24 pm

Eve Cartier wrote:If there is one thing we see in Gorean FW over and over, it's that they aren't afraid to speak their minds.


While being ignored and still ending up having to do what the men around them wanted them to do.
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Re: Free Woman Courting

Postby Cassie » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:04 pm

I am more trying to rp being interested more than actually achieving the companionship. It's more the fun of seeing how the guy would react to it, would he try to catch it or ignore it? Would he politely decline in emotes or dialogs? It's kind of fascinating.

So far I was turned down due to cultural reasons. I was tempted to push into a more "Soap Opera" dramatic kind of rp but it doesn't sound too Gorean and I didn't want to scare the guy with some free woman sobbing. :lol:

Eve's idea does give me good pointers. I am well aware companionship are temporary however if I were a gorean woman I would try to find a good man if it was up to me because switching from one man to another chances are you might get arranged to a serious son a bitch. Would be fun RP wise as always. :D
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