Who has More Frustration

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Who has more frustration

A Free woman
16
57%
A panther
12
43%
 
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Adoveea Rau
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Re: Who has More Frustration

Postby Adoveea Rau » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:30 pm

As a free woman I'd say panther has more frustration. Just in existance.
A panther is locked into a lonely existance, has to fend for food, clothing, shelter, fight for her freedom every single day, and has all men she encounters always basically looking upon her as collar material because it's only the possiblity of new slaves that makes the experienced warrior of gor go into panther lands.(okay in SL gor, it's cheap thrill of combat/chase/collar/release routine)
A Free Woman has a full city of resources, her caste status can be raised or lowered, her protection is fully established long as her behavior is within city customs and laws, she can encounter males with her own options of companion or slave (see about behavior customs and laws), own and operate businesses, slaves and property.
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Re: Who has More Frustration

Postby kimmi Lecker » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:31 pm

I think they both have frustrations but differently. I think a FW would be frustrated more simply because she has more to deal with. She probably lives in a city and has men to deal with, slaves to deal with, other FW to deal with. She is always concerned about impressing someone or doing something the correct way. She may have a man to deal with on a daily basis.
Panthers on the other hand have eliminated all that from their lives by fleeing to the forest to live in a peaceful environment. No men, no slaves if they wish, nothing but to live off the land and survive. Survival was enough to worry about and maybe a bit frustrating at times though.Imagine hunting and trying to eat berries and fruit day in and day out. If the panthers faced frustration it would be because of survival not from anyone in particular I think.
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Re: Who has More Frustration

Postby Adoveea Rau » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:15 pm

Now that's an interesting concept there kimmi and well thought out from a different point of view.
The parallel could be drawn that the average free woman is more socially inclined- in dealing with their society and the panthers are the loners-outside of the society...oops, we just went to the books on that!
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Re: Who has More Frustration

Postby Sie Alcott » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:49 pm

I say the Free Man who has to deal with both has the most frustration. ;)
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Re: Who has More Frustration

Postby Allison Millet » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:30 pm

Sie Alcott wrote:I say the Free Man who has to deal with both has the most frustration. ;)


Or is it the women who have to put up with the free man :lol:
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Re: Who has More Frustration

Postby Stephania Vuckovic » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:53 am

Sie Alcott wrote:I say the Free Man who has to deal with both has the most frustration. ;)


/me sticks a live eel down his tunic and calls it a day
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Re: Who has More Frustration

Postby Allison Millet » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:15 am

Stephania Vuckovic wrote:
Sie Alcott wrote:I say the Free Man who has to deal with both has the most frustration. ;)


/me sticks a live eel down his tunic and calls it a day


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Re: Who has More Frustration

Postby Aphris » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:23 am

I think most FW in Gor are quite satisfied with there lives. Not many choose slavery or run away to become panther girl.

The panthers are quite frustrated, see how they cry against the moons.

Captive of Gor wrote:Then suddenly, to my amazement, Verna cried out in
anguish, a wild, moaning, anguished cry, and threw from
herself her weapons and tore away her own skins and leaped
into the circle, turning, and clawing and crying out like the
others. She was not other than they, but first among them!
She danced savagely, clad only in her gold and beauty,
beneath the moons. She cried out and clawed. Sometimes
she bit at another girl or struck at her, if she dared approach
the square more closely than she. Writhing, enraged, but
fearful, eyes blazing, dancing, they fell back before her.


But more of the frustration is to see out what happened at the beach, that none of the panthers of Verna wanted to go back to the forest but stayed at their new masters.

Hunters of Gor wrote:Rim, followed by Cara, turned about and went to a longboat.
Verna’s women, one by one, were now taking leave of those of my men,
whom they had served.
They, some weeping, some turning about, tears in their eyes, lifting their
hands, bade crewmen farewell.
The men stood on the sand and watched them depart. Some lifted their
hands to them.
Then suddenly one girl turned from the forest and fled to a crewman,
kneeling before him, back on her heels, head down, arms extended, wrists
crossed as though for binding. He gestured that she should rise and get into a
longboat. She did so, his slave.
To my amazement, one after another of the girls than ran down the
beach. Each, before he who had touched her, knelt before him, making herself
his and his alone.
She, too, was ordered to a longboat, abruptly, as one commands a slave.
In the forest Verna would wait for her women, until she understood they
were not coming.
She smiled. "I have grown fond of the smell of bosk," said she. Kamchak smiled. He held his hand to the girl. "Ride with me, Aphris of Turia," said Kamchak of the Tuchuks. Image
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Re: Who has More Frustration

Postby Sidney » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:38 am

I know that Norman thinks I should be frustrated, but...

I LOVE my second life and wouldn't trade of for any other role. I didn't vote, because women are not a monolith. Different strokes... and all that.
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Re: Who has More Frustration

Postby Tashiana » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:00 am

I guess both has their frustrations but if we narrow down it to their relations to men I guess a question should be why some women leave their lives and join a Panther tribe.
(As it seem that panthers not born panthers but come from mostly free woman and slaves. As slaves are so few its reasonable to believe the majority are actually free woman from start.)

My personally guess and how I try to play my char is that Panthers mainly make up from strong minded Woman that not satisfied with what the life as a Free woman has to offer. They proud strong and will not submit just anyone. Probably they did run from start since they risked being collared or forced in to a relationship with some one they did not regard as their true master.

So I would guess as a Panther I more frustrated than a Free Woman as I cant find what I seek and the men we capture and enjoy our self with are looked down at as they are weak and fall to women. So we treat them brisk. Slaves are just as bad. They submit to anyone and have no proud.

But end line as even if I frustrated I cant find anyone that deserve me I prefer my freedom rather than to submit to someone unworthy. The Free Woman on the other hand is contempt with what waiting them or they have not yet been forced into the choice.

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