You're right about that Tamar, I was thinking along the lines of male roleplayers who're more likely to promote it and less capable of roleplaying it. Women are definitely better at enduring IC conflict, they aren't trying to be macho and can better immerse themselves into a challenging scenario.
The Gorean setting lends itself well to Conflict RP, a quiet place with just a captor and a captive. But somewhere along the way Capture-Roleplay became dirty words in SL Gor, it was replaced by Storyline RP, which is just another way of saying Live-Happily-Ever-After-Romance-RP.
Sasi wrote:When I chat with friends who RP in other environments and have experience with Gor, they always point out the lack of IC/OCC separation in SL Gor.
I've had these encounters too and when I ask where they've roleplayed in Gor, some haven't ever been but they're happy to vilify Gorean Roleplayers. Some have roleplayed in Gor and they'll describe something I can only surmise to be some obscure Lifestyle sim. The opinions of those who've never committed to Gorean roleplay but still want to criticise it, are irrelevant.
Back when I was involved in Gor, I was probably banned from more sims for my roleplay
than anyone, so I know how lame Gor can be, but I'd also say Gor has produced some of SL's finest roleplayers. When I roleplay on Earth or Fantasy sims, I find people are very limited, they have a set way of performing or understanding roleplay and its like you're speaking a different language. In contrast, when you roleplay with someone in Gor, they just flow with the scene.
That's when people on Earth sims will engage with my avatar at all, people actively discriminate when they see Gor in your profile. I've had male roleplayers verbally attacking my character from just assuming him to be a misogynist, the moment I walk into a bar. Roleplaying with female characters has a reduced chance too as many won't roleplay with 'Goreans'. These are the types of people who say Gorean Roleplayers cannot separate IC from OOC.
At one time I would remove Gorean tabs from my profile when visiting Urban sims. But then I stopped, as I figured they were helping to filter out the chaff from those worth engaging with.
About Lifestylers, I don't much care for the practice. I once warned people that Lifestylers were taking over BTB, people didn't heed my doomsday warnings, and now BTB has become a byword for a Lifestyle Gorean sim. It was like a virus that began to spread, nothing can be done for it now but to cut away the healthy tissue, and quarantine all BTB sims. But I don't appreciate people saying that these hybrid Lifestyle/BTB communities define Gorean Roleplayers.
Sasi wrote:Most people in SL Gor are UNABLE to play their character in a plausible and realistic context. How many times in a Gorean big city environment, do you have people who introduce themselves in telling "I am THE baker of X..." "I am THE tavern master of this city", "I am the slaver...." Really, dude? In a city that has dozens of thousands of citizens, you own the only bakery/tavern/slave house / whatever....?"
This is an effect of what I think of as the SL Persona. A regular Roleplayer is their RL Self and the character they're portraying. Then some people have become so invested in SL, they form a second identity. They roleplay as their SL Persona and the character they're portraying.
Their imagination is limited to what their SL Persona perceives, a 'city' is quiet when only three people are online. It has only one bakery, only one blacksmith in the city who's been away for weeks, which has endangered the Red Caste which consists of four warriors. And it takes them precisely one minute to cross the world, have breakfast on another continent, then return in time for lunch.
It's a particular sort of person who leans towards the Lifestyle spectrum and not someone I'd consider representative of an actual Gorean Roleplayer. I've seen people with an SL Persona outside of Gor too, they live in the world they see on screen.
The point of this thread isn't to bait or troll anyone, but to explain 'Gorean Roleplayers' have always been a separate group from Lifestylers(who aren't roleplayers). Gor brought some of SL's most capable roleplayers together, and maybe that was all in the past, and even I don't see a prosperous future for SL Gor. But a distinction should always be made between a Gorean Roleplayer and the BTB/Lifestyle community.
P.S. About NPCs being used properly, I've endured the unfortunate experience of having roleplay spammed my way, with paragraphs of details on someone's NPC family members, their traits, habits, quirks and everything that makes for deliriously dull reading. I'll admit to being a narcissistic roleplayer, unless an emote is about my character or relating to his interests, he's going to end that discussion and move people along. NPCs and their deployment is largely a nuisance for fluffing up emotes and unnecessarily extending the length of posts.