Sasi wrote:Tantus, it's not some shadows sims... Read the group chats, read people's profiles... In SL Gor, most people speak of themselves not in terms of role-players, but as if they were their character. They introduce themselves as warriors, slaves, free women, etc. I never saw a role play environment where people so much suck at distancing themselves from their characters....
Also, you didn't understand my previous comment. I never expected that free characters should accomodate slaves into their role play as I appreciate that they don't come ruin a scene I'm playing with another slave to send my character serve visitors potentially new sim members to the local inn.
All that I expect is that these people respect the whole Gorean culture, where FW don't display their curves, features and hair, where men lust after slave girls, show deference to FW but consider them as rather useless in terms of pleasure, where FW don't befriend kajirae but hate them, are jealous of them and where slaves fear FW like hell. What you see in the Gorean books, chapter after chapter.
Because yes, the slave role becomes meaningless when it happens (and it happens everywhere, in every sim). Unlike you enjoy playing a waitress in the background of some scene. And it happens in the most populated sims....
Anarch Allegiere wrote:I always found that the more I read and understood the books the harder it became to actually -enjoy- role playing in SL Gor. I can look past the way some people dress, but when it really starts getting fucked up is when important central pillars start being opposed and denied.
Getting called 'weird' IC because you portray a character that prefers the company of slave-girls over free women.
Getting insulted (IC and OOC) because you: A. share your slave-girls with other men or B. have more than one slave-girl.
These are just the few examples I remember straight from the top of my head, but usually when I RP in SL Gor it quickly becomes a whole washlist of reasons (warrior codes, merchant law, ...) as to why I start banging my head against the wall in frustration. Involving such misguided characters in your RP scenes can kill the entire immersion and buzz of everything else you've been RPing. So I can definitely understand why some people become a whole lot more 'exclusive' and 'clique-ish' when they RP in SL Gor - but RPing the same few people all the time can get dull too, you need regular 'outside' contact to keep RP interesting and fresh - but if that just becomes an exercise in frustration every time you try it, you'll just realize that RPing in SL Gor just doesn't 'work' anymore.
SL Gor has developed it's own 'dumbed down' culture - which is very different from the world in the books. The books who oddly enough, allow for a lot more creative and diverse characters. It's just a really weird world of slave-girls must be personality-less / story-less / sex-less waitresses and where violence and complex social dynamics are taboo.
There is just too large of a critical mass of role players in SL Gor who don't 'get it'. (And then we didn't even touch on the lack of separating IC and OOC sufficiently yet, just do a bit of conflict RP and you'll see how quickly people don't get it. IC conflict becomes a reason to hate each other's guts apparently - perpetuated by TS and Discord servers full of people OOC hating other groups and sims).
All that is the reason why I'm elitist and clique-ish in SL Gor, but probably one of the most inclusive RP-ers in other genres. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Tantus wrote:After a promising start, Mhirdrun is on its way out too. I'll post the message from Phiona which I feel resonates with many popular RP sims of recent times:
Tamar Luminos wrote:Well, damn- I never heard anything about Mhirdrun, which is a shame because I've always liked Phiona's sims and would have liked to have checked it out. Ah well.
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