Ethical uses of a sim name.

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Is placing the name of a high traffic sim in the description of your low traffic sim ethical?

Yes
18
20%
Yes
18
20%
No
28
30%
No
28
30%
 
Total votes: 92
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Re: Ethical uses of a sim name.

Postby ... » Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:07 pm

Mat Vhargon wrote:
Oor wrote:
Mat Vhargon wrote:second life could do the same that Google does that is their business decision, just because a business decides to do something one way or the other has nothing to do with ethics. It is almost always about maximizing profits in some way and little to nothing to do with ethics.


I'm not arguing ethics! I'm arguing naffness! Get with the program!

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That is funny I thought the whole thread was about ethics, do not want to go off topic or anything.


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Re: Ethical uses of a sim name.

Postby Thyri » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:59 pm

I've seen sims who've put a no RP with "X" sim in their rules have no problem adding the name of that sim in their search profile. Its misleading.

I'll use a city's name as an example..... not to dig at this particular sim because I havent done a search for that sim. But take a name like Cos. Island nation. Now... tell me exactly how a torvoldsland sim is in any way related to a tropical island? They're not interconnected (unless your're going by the VERY loose connection that they touch the same body of water). But yet you'll see the search term (in the keyword spam cloud that almost everyone puts on their sim description).

I know a lot of clothing designers would file a JIRA over their name being used in another designer's keyword cloud. Say a new skin designer came out. Would they be equally as justified to put the name Belleza or Redgrave in their search terms? I'd have kittens if I were the designer whose name is being used as keyword spam.

Its misleading, its false advertising, its downright wrong in my eyes. And I have no problem telling sim owners that I find it wrong that they're keyword spamming in their search terms.
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Re: Ethical uses of a sim name.

Postby Mat » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:05 am

Thyri wrote:
I know a lot of clothing designers would file a JIRA over their name being used in another designer's keyword cloud. Say a new skin designer came out. Would they be equally as justified to put the name Belleza or Redgrave in their search terms? I'd have kittens if I were the designer whose name is being used as keyword spam.

Its misleading, its false advertising, its downright wrong in my eyes. And I have no problem telling sim owners that I find it wrong that they're keyword spamming in their search terms.

There is a huge difference between a gorean city name found in the books and a clothing designers name. One you could presumably have set up as a business and even trademarked the name, that is not possible with a city name that is found in the books unless you work for JN I guess.
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Re: Ethical uses of a sim name.

Postby Lax » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:54 am

The Difference between using a term or phrase from the book or the use of popular sim names as a means of self promotion is exploitation value. Adding the names of several other sims to your own doesn't make their name appear more often when your sim is searched for, it makes YOUR sim appear more often when THEIR sim is searched for. I searched Clearchus, for example, and Treve's name did not appear, I then searched Treve, and Poof, there was Clearchus.

This is an action of one who wants their sim to be the Top, most popular, most searched Sim. is this Good? No. Is this Bad? No. But it is NOT by any means a way of developing a Community. that is Crap. It is the Mentality of being out for your own. Now I have no issue with that, as those who are doing it are spending good money on their sim, let them think of themselves.

This action is Morally and ethically ambiguous. the Intention is what should be called to the carpet.
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Re: Ethical uses of a sim name.

Postby Mat » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:45 am

Caliway wrote:The Difference between using a term or phrase from the book or the use of popular sim names as a means of self promotion is exploitation value. Adding the names of several other sims to your own doesn't make their name appear more often when your sim is searched for, it makes YOUR sim appear more often when THEIR sim is searched for. I searched Clearchus, for example, and Treve's name did not appear, I then searched Treve, and Poof, there was Clearchus.

This is an action of one who wants their sim to be the Top, most popular, most searched Sim. is this Good? No. Is this Bad? No. But it is NOT by any means a way of developing a Community. that is Crap. It is the Mentality of being out for your own. Now I have no issue with that, as those who are doing it are spending good money on their sim, let them think of themselves.

This action is Morally and ethically ambiguous. the Intention is what should be called to the carpet.

The question is who really cares, it is not attempting to be dishonest in any way only to allow your sim to show up in more results. If someone searches for Treve, and Clearchus shows up along with treve in the search results, than whoever is searching for Treve will not be ticked into going olll wow Clearchus must be treve or something and not going to Treve. They may at most go wow I have not been to Clearchus why do I not check them out, again nobody is being mislead here though.
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Re: Ethical uses of a sim name.

Postby Lax » Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:21 pm

Mat Vhargon wrote:The question is who really cares, it is not attempting to be dishonest in any way only to allow your sim to show up in more results. If someone searches for Treve, and Clearchus shows up along with treve in the search results, than whoever is searching for Treve will not be ticked into going olll wow Clearchus must be treve or something and not going to Treve. They may at most go wow I have not been to Clearchus why do I not check them out, again nobody is being mislead here though.


I can't name names here, but it looks like about 43 care about this, with 26 of them being opposed to the Idea.

But you are absolutely right, people will be searching for one and will see another pop up and decided to explore it. it is a Marketing ploy. so is Subliminal advertising, a method commonly seen as unethical by all major public media. so is false advertising, offering one thing and presenting another...

It works. but the question here is not does it work, but it right. The Majority sampled her say no.
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