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Why are the cultures of Schendi so misrepresented?

Re: Why are the cultures of Schendi so misrepresented?

Postby Syndel » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:12 pm

Schendi is totally Africa...
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Re: Why are the cultures of Schendi so misrepresented?

Postby Dyce » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:17 pm

I understood well that part, Kaitlin.

I'm saying that the "lost cities" along the Lake Shaba is more akin to Indian origins, such as in Rudyard Kipling's The Jungle Book. There's nothing like that along a lake with statues of people in South America that I'm aware of.

Nor are the native cultures of South America anything close to what was described in Explorers of Gor.

The Mayan people are in Central America.

The people in Amazonia aren't shield and spear fighting people. They are fishers and hunters (of bow and arrow) with red skin.

The tribal oval shields of Schendi are African in equivalence.
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Re: Why are the cultures of Schendi so misrepresented?

Postby Echo » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:32 pm

I shall offer apologies if this next offends anyone. It is not the intent. The intent is merely debate of the possibilities.

The Op title mentions misrepresented, but questions under-representation. So I shall answer the second portion first.
The tahari resembles the classic mideast. There are wars going on over there right now and it is probably uncool to look like someone of the region right now. Exceptions, good Rpers that did their homework and enjoy the setting, people from that or similar regions. Based on those criteria they are a niche seeking like minded players. Or a widely different time zone.

To the first part. . . Because this is SLgor here. Everything is misrepresented.
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Re: Why are the cultures of Schendi so misrepresented?

Postby Eve Cartier » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:36 am

I'm going to call "psychology" on this one.

A couple points...

- When I ran the band I learned something. I would switch the sim over during the winter to a snow covered, cold feeling sim to reflect the current weather. I would do this in about Nov. I would then flip it to spring in mid- end Jan. Obviously winter is far longer than 2 months, but I discovered that when the sim felt cold and uninviting people wouldn't play as much. I played with this idea a bit and figured out that people like the feeling of warmth and greenery. It's a subconscious thing, but people like having trees and flowers and green things around them when they play.

In my mind that is one of the reasons sims built off the structures of the Middle East always flounder. Because, like it or not, people start feeling dry and uncomfortable being there. (Yes, I am speaking in general here). There can be palm trees and full flower beds, but the general feeling of heat and dryness turns people off... it just does.

- In Gor, we have a hard time stepping outside of what we know. I think we forget this is supposed to be an alien planet. We tend to lean towards things we know. I think this is part of the reason you don't see alien plants on sims. Also, beyond a rare tarn or two, when was the last time you say tharlarians regularly roaming a city? When cities are built or lived in or run, we immediately hold them up to the nearest earth city we know and try to run them that way. Going to be a Torvie? Go learn about Vikings. Want to join Ar? How's your toga inventory? It's not a bad thing, it gives us a basis to begin play from, but I don't think we push hard enough to get out of the known.

All that said, Schendi is a rough one because we don't have an earth culture to immediately compare it to. Previous discussions suggested Ancient South American cultures, or African. The landscape of the Jungle would point towards, geographically, something like deep Africa, or the Amazon. I can understand, because of this, why someone would naturally assume Mayan or something akin when it comes to a city, because these are the only massive cities we can base things on in these areas.

(And before anyone freaks out, yes I know there were massive cities in Africa, but they are far less known and most of their structures are gone leaving us little knowledge about them.)

In short, because we don't have a well known, massive African city to base these book cities on, people twitch and don't go in that direction. So people might lean towards the unknown (South American) to get as close as they can, but really, it doesn't quite fit either.

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I am sure we will continue to see middle eastern based sims, but I don't think people will ever get away from their natural inclination towards water and greenery so I don't see one of these sims ever taking off.

Someday, someone will build a Jungle based city. It will have the water and greenery I think people need. The trick will be if they can simply immerse themselves in what is there, and not try and compare it to something known to provide comfort in their own minds.
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Re: Why are the cultures of Schendi so misrepresented?

Postby Dyce » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:12 pm

:yeahthat:

What Eve just said.

The reason I loved Oasis of Tajuk is because of the water and the palm trees and the flowing, natural landscape using a mixture of Linden terrain and sculpted rock.

If someone wants a fictional parallel to a Jungle City, just go play World of Warcraft until you can enter Zul'Gurub.

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Re: Why are the cultures of Schendi so misrepresented?

Postby Luta » Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:51 am

I think it's been touched on in the thread; it's due to a lack of information in general. Schendi isn't portrayed as much as the more popular cultures, and thusly there isn't a wealth of information on Schendi online. If you Google for Schendi resources, you're going to get at most a few prehistoric relic Angelfire/Geocities sites that touch on a few superficial things and that's all. And so as a result of the lack of well formatted and easily accessible info, you get people who simply make a black avatar (if you're lucky enough they even do that) and proceed to play whatever kind of dude they want.

I play a Schendi and I'm guilty of that. My character is a pirate/mercenary and I often use that to fill in the blanks that are left in his character from my lack of knowledge. Or I'll just pull a '/me broods and won't talk about his home to you.'
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