Cassie wrote:Not pre requisite but not to be so easily frowned upon. Training IC can be fun as a background plot.
I would not display my slave all naked all day, she is my slave why display her around. If I were a slaver maybe even but a private one no... she is mine!
That said I don't feel as FW offended if a girl is naked so much cause I am afraid of boobs but it is such a display for men that having it shoved in my FW face just feels wrong. Again this is an aspect I embrace out of quotes trying to think like a FW.
For assassin training and slave training, it is different than physician/scribe/warrior training.
I think RPed out assassin and slave training would be fine. I am against *mandated* rped out training, though. That is what people are against. The mandated rule. But I am glad that the black caste is evolving and are moving beyond it. in Ar, we have legends of BC here that have rped the caste for a very long time, and yet, the BC rule for the sim is : no ooc group mandated, no rped out training mandated.
Viggo wrote:Point is, in SL gor you need to take in account that it is a game and can't be 100% BTB in regards to some things. There are people that come to Gor wanting to play scarlets and have no idea how too, and they are not shown because people say "you should already know ICly, so we won't teach you". I take a new person coming to a city or caste, like in books where they have people switching castes, there was trying in the books for new Scarlet as we seen with Tarl. Anyone can switch caste with High Council approval, so if a Metal Worker showed great qualities of a warrior during a raid the High Council can accept him to switch caste to Scarlet. Of course he is a low caste Metal Worker and has no clue about being a Scarlet, so someone had to teach him.
They should research their role before playing their role in a roleplaying sim. I don't show up as a noble in game of thrones and ask them to teach me IC how to be a noble of westeros.
They need to research their role before hand, and be given resources where there is a large collection of quotes, like thegoreancave.com , or diverted to the e-reads book website.
Just because the high council has the power to do something doesn't mean it happens commonly. You are missing the point here.
I agree with Sasi that if you want to be a special snowflake and 'move into ' the warriors caste like Tarl, then you should go find a tutor and train one on one, not as a caste whole. Go take someone under your wing. Why force the rest of us to go through nonsensical OOC IC blended training that make no sense with our character backgrounds?
Viggo wrote:@ Theoden- you have not sent one quote or said anything logical but your opinion, of what YOU think. While everything I said was quoted and BTB or from Greek/Roman history that the books were based off. Lets try this, instead of thinking you can just throw some crap on a forum and be seen as some kind of master BTB scarlet.
That's very funny actually because everything i have said is based on the books or history. I don't need to do the work of researching quotes for you, you can do that for yourself.
It's funny because you on the other hand have posted many quotes, but still continue your verbal diarrhea of nonsense. Every quote you have posted about warriors was out of context or didn't support your argument or had nothing to do with the argument at hand.
Viggo wrote: Lets pick an easy topic you keep bringing it; give one quote from any of the almost 30 books of someone using a rapid fire bow besides the torvie short bow...let us see you use the very first quote and logical fact based reply in your life on the forums.
Eh. I'll humor you. Why not. I have the e-read on my iPad anyway.
the tiny, swift bow of Tuchuks, the narrow, rectangular quiver, with its forty arrows. . . . It is small, double-curved, about four feet in length, built up of layers of bosk horn, bound and reinforced with metal and leather; it is banded with metal at seven points, including the grip. . .the bow lacks the range of both the longbow and the crossbow, but, at close range, firing rapidly, it can be a devastating weapon
Assassin of Gor, Page 365
I whipped out the Tuchuk bow and, in the instant, found myself wheeling and fighting in the midst of more than a dozen tarnsmen, while many others, wheeling about, attempted to press in upon me. Ubar of the Skies suddenly uttered a scream that terrified even me, raising the hair on my neck and arms; it was not simply the challenge scream of his kind; it was a scream of pleasure, of horrifying eagerness, of the tarn's lust for blood and war; steel-shod talons grasping, screaming, beak tearing, Ubar of the Skies, his black eyes blazing with delight, hurled himself on odds that pleased him, odds which even he, that majestic carnivore, could accept as worthy. Again and again the small bow, swift and vicious, fired, twenty barbed arrows in half an Ehn, tarnsmen struggling to reach me with their swords, thrusting with their heavy spears, and all the time Ubar of the Skies tearing and ripping, his beak and steel-shod talons engines of fierce carnage;
Assassin of Gor, chapter 22 the stadium of tarns
The bow, of course, small, for use from the saddle, lacks the range and power of the Gorean longbow or crossbow; still, at close range, with considerable force, firing rapidly, arrow after arrow, it is a fearsome weapon.
Nomads of Gor, Pages 66 - 67
The small bow has many advantages. High among these is the rapidity with which it may be drawn and fired. A skilled warrior, in the Gorean gravity, can fire ten arrows into the air, the last leaving the bow before the first has returned to the earth. No Gorean weapon can match it in its rate of fire. At close range it can be devastating. Two further advantages of the small bow that might be mentioned are its maneuverability and its capacity to be concealed, say beneath a robe. It can be easily swept from one side of the kaiila to the other.
Savages of Gor, Page 46
Tarl introduced some tuchuk bows over to his special fleet of tarn cavalry for his pani friends. but of course, tarl is an exception and majority of warriors wouldn't use tuchuk bows. but.... I'm just leaving this here just in case you insist there is 'no' incidents of warriors using tuchuk bows.
"I was proud of the cavalry and it had well proven its reliability and formidableness in combat, for it had met and defeated a far larger force in the skies over the northern forests, a force intent on the destruction of Tarncamp, and later, one supposes, Shipcamp. As a tarn force it was superbly trained and uniquely equipped for aerial combat, far more so than the usual tarn forces of known Gor, which usually consisted, in effect, of mounted infantry, spear bearing, and armed with a saddle-clearing crossbow. We used the supple temwood lance and a bow modeled on the Tuchuk saddle bow, the lance lighter and longer than the spear, exceeding its reach, and the string bow capable, of course, of firing several missiles to one of the traditional crossbow. The great peasant bow was impractical to use on tarnback. At closer quarters one might use quivas, saddle knives, or Anango darts."
-Rebels of Gor, page 7, chapter 1.
They were short, ship bows, stout and maneuverable, easy to use in crowded quarters, easy to fire across the bulwarks of galleys locked in combat.
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Their rate of fire, of course, is much superior to that of the crossbow, either of the draw or windlass, variety. All things considered the ship bow is an ideal missile weapon for close-range naval combat. It is superior in this respect even to the peasant bow, or long bow, which excels it in impact, range and accuracy.
Rouge of Gor, Pages 307 - 308
Panthers. Obviously they don't use long slow bows like peasant bows or pani bows. Strength issues.
"Some call them the forest girls," said Ute. "Others call them the panther girls, for they dress themselves in the teeth and skins of forest panthers, which they slay with their spears and bows."
Captive of Gor, Page 82