Glaucon wrote:Kaitlin wrote:Theoden doesn't have to convince me of anything. We are actually in agreement on the small likelihood that those attracted by a new meter would evolve into the type of roleplayers that Gor needs to actually RP on a sim rather than just add to the avatar count. Or did you skip over that too in your reading?
We clearly read something very different. You read Théoden's posts as him cheerleading you. I read him as actually getting the stuff I and others were talking about (as opposed to yourself). And him not wanting to antagonize you by openly disagreeing with you (same as Anarch, really) because he can tell how you'd react (you don't take disagreement very well). I actually read what he typed. He did mention that the 'trickle down' of RP-ers from more game-like Gor environments would be slow. And of course, it would not happen for everyone, though it did for quite a few people posting here (perhaps most) and playing in the sort of para RP sims you like playing in, including the non-gorean ones. Maybe I am really blind, but it seems pretty clear to me he was agreeing with that, not dissenting.
Not that I expect him to back me up on that. And I don't mind him not doing that. Some people are wiser than I am. They know it is not worth it.
I pointed out the fact that the trickle up was slow, and later down in the post, i mentioned that there was a few who would trickle up. So technically Kaitlin is right in that we both agree on the fact of relative scarcity of the trickle up effect.
However, there's a subtle but important difference and nuance.
I mentioned the 'few' positively, that there ARE a few men we could cultivate, that people WILL benefit from a better meter. She regarded the 'few', what she renamed 'a handful' negatively, that it didn't matter. Glass half full = me, glass half empty = kaitlin.
My main point however was that it would be way better to just leech good quality traffic from other genres, rather than doing the trickle up effect.
Thus my point was to acknowledge the positive ramifications of a new meter but also note the limitations, while pointing to a better method of accomplishing a goal.
The issue was whether or not a new meter would be good for quality traffic, yes?
Kaitlin and I may have agreed on the same 'fact' of a scarcity of candidates for the trickle up effect, but my view on the benefits of a new meter (should it become successful) is relatively positive whilst pointing toward an even better alternative method, and her view on the benefits was negative and dismissive.