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Avoiding RP: Is it IC/OOC cross over?

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Avoiding RP: Is it IC/OOC cross over?

Postby ~pancake~ » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:23 pm

Inspired by some other topics, I’m wondering if choosing to avoid roleplaying with someone is really crossing IC and OOC.

There are possibly people some would prefer not to RP with I would think. That could be an ex, could be someone you have muted, could be someone you just don’t like for whatever reason.

If you walked up to someone you disliked OOC and killed their character IC, that I see as clear cross over.

However, if your dislike of them is OOC, and your decision to not want to RP with them is OOC, and no IC interaction occurs, where is the IC cross over?

Perhaps an argument could be made that everyone should try to roleplay with everyone. Perhaps some could could claim that to avoid certain people makes someone a bad roleplayer, but even still, is that technicaly crossing IC/OOC?

Further to that thought - if it is IC/OOC cross over, don't we all do it every day in chosing the sims we do or don't play on?
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Re: Avoiding RP: Is it IC/OOC cross over?

Postby Frevet » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:28 pm

Imho, it is. I am guilty of actively refusing to role-play with 2 people in SL.

When -I- speak fo avoiding, I should probably instead say: I will not actively seek them out, unless

1. they fullfill a role that I need and no one else does (the only blacksmith in town etc.) or

2. the people I rp with involve them.

However, I will rp with everyone who approaches me, no matter what I think of them OOC (or what they might think of me OOC) or if our styles mix. I will at least give it a shot.

The IC crossover of actively avoiding people in RP who you do not like OOC happens in many many cases.

Your character needs a weapon, and you have the finest blacksmith with the best prices in town. Yet, your character all of a sudden makes this completely dumb and irrational decision to go to some cheapass other blacksmith or just NPC it just because you do not like the player of said character. It obviously affected your rp. Now you gotta make up excuses as to why you didn't go to them.

Or: Your friends involve someone you do not like OOC. All of a sudden, you gotta twist your storylines in a way that might explain why out of the blue your character is never around when that one person is with them, or why they won't talk to them.

Etc. etc.
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Re: Avoiding RP: Is it IC/OOC cross over?

Postby Username » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:32 pm

You're making decisions for your character because you OOC dislike a player, not because your character had some sort of experience with their character that resulted in IC dislike. Purdy OOC fueled from where I'm sitting.

Nobody really plays this without any OOC influence, unless they're a robot. It takes a lot for me to decide this, but if I know you're a moron, I won't deal with you, "Go0D Rp'ErInG" be damned.
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Re: Avoiding RP: Is it IC/OOC cross over?

Postby Wanita Slade » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:38 pm

Over 4 years, only one person I will make all attempts to avoid in roleplay. Sadly so but with justified means over at least two years of personal interraction (both on an ooc and ic level).

If by some reason avoiding them ic'ly is inevitable, I will keep the roleplay with said person to the bare minimum.
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Re: Avoiding RP: Is it IC/OOC cross over?

Postby serene mistwood » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:40 pm

I believe it is - yes. If you avoid, or don't want to RP with somebody because you don't like them for whatever reason, then it is IC/OOC crossover. But then so is almost everything in SL Gor to a greater or lesser degree to me. The problem isnt the cross-over - but how much you obsess about it being wrong or right based on other peoples opinions of what makes a *correct* RP'er.

The only addition I would add, is that often, you will be missing out and probably be very very wrong about people if you base it purely on a forum debate board.
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Re: Avoiding RP: Is it IC/OOC cross over?

Postby Hawt Sommer » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:44 pm

If I have a reason to dislike someone OOC'ly it means they went OOC, And I didn't like how they went OOC.

So why should I go there? Why should I make the investment in someone that has made my experience: Less, and most likely will continue to be the way they are and continue to make my experience Less?

My time is precious online as it's limited. Not going to invest time into something I know I most likely will not enjoy.

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Re: Avoiding RP: Is it IC/OOC cross over?

Postby ~pancake~ » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:49 pm

Nods a lot to the posts.

Avoiding is different than refusing, to me anyway. Just like there are certain players we may seek out because we like their RP or have history with their character, there are others we wouldn't actively seek out. If they engage us? I think most would play it until we could extract ourselves IC unless the issue with the other person was very severe (eg: muted)

So the decision is OOC and does limit the IC interaction, in that it is techinically cross over, but I don't lump it in the same category or same severity as for example a player taking out OOC dislike on someone IC.

We all only have a limited amount of time to engage in our hobby. Making OOC choices that bring our character to sims we want to play on and in contact with players we want to play with only seems practical.
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Re: Avoiding RP: Is it IC/OOC cross over?

Postby Elle Couerblanc » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:57 pm

I usually avoid someone for two reasons:

1. They have made me uncomfortable for some reason. Whether it be they "hurt my widdle feelings" or just seem to be overly aggressive in pushing their RP needs on me. For example they love to punish me too often for just simply exisiting or love to illogically insert fingers in my orifices etc, LOL. I'm exaggerating but I hope you get my drift here.

2. Their character is so implausible and their RP is not enjoyable to me in any manner. For example, ferals who just simply can't emote to save their life, even a decent one liner.

Don't get me wrong. I don't care if someone is a one liner - all I care about is that they are fun in some way. Actually one of my favorite characters from Sasi's Tarnwald, Clearchus and Dyval is more of a one or two liner RPer. But he is such fun I enjoy seeking him out for RP.
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Re: Avoiding RP: Is it IC/OOC cross over?

Postby Harlequin » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:59 pm

I will avoid a number of people because we don't mesh, or the RP is just not enjoyable and there's no reason to keep trying. If it comes up? I'll RP with them, but I won't go out of my way, and will basically only do it if I have to.

There are a couple people who I will refuse to RP with. If forced to, I will do all I can to avoid interaction, and will pull from the scene as fast as humanly possible. This isn't common, and in these few cases its people whose RP I can't stand, or whose OOC conduct was so completely terrible I can't handle being in close proximity to them without wanting to hit them with a forklift.
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Re: Avoiding RP: Is it IC/OOC cross over?

Postby Mynerva » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:06 pm

Username wrote:Nobody really plays this without any OOC influence, unless they're a robot. It takes a lot for me to decide this, but if I know you're a moron, I won't deal with you, "Go0D Rp'ErInG" be damned.



I agree with that. Most of the decisions we make for our characters are based on some OOC thing or another. That can be the sim we choose because of our time zone - or the role players we prefer to play with because we just get along with them well and we know we will have a good time with them. Those things become a problem when they have an impact on the rp of others. I also avoid certain people in rp - when I run into them I played out the scene in a polite and logical way - but made sure I took myself out of the scene as soon as it made sense. There is nothing wrong with that in my opinion because it had no influence at all on the rp of the other players. As soon as such OOC things become something others have to alter or bend their rp for - it becomes a problem in my opinion.
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