Jessy Mumfuzz wrote:What I do find strange is....the females who play assassins get ...Ohhhh its just RP from many. Those same ones who say that, when they hear a guy is RPin a panther think its disgusting.
In other words.....for an assassin (or warrior) played by a female, furs a FW or slave....FINE..Its RP. A panther played by a man gets furred by an (for example) assassin or warrior...its an out rage!
Neekoh wrote:alana quicksand wrote: So,OOC I understand why a man would not like to fur another man playing a girl. However, I think it is interesting when I find that some men would not mind at all, knowing if I have furred an assassin or two that is a woman. *pervs*
Eh, no...for sure they would not mind. /me grins.
If they mind, you can be sure they're a woman behind the avatar.
Targaryen Ghiardie wrote:I'll break it down then, real simple. In my experience, women do not play men better than men. They can play decent men, but they do not play better men, because men have the added bonus of having a deeper frame of reference, in that they are men. They can play men all they like, I just don't think they're generally very good at it, just as I don't think men are generally very good at playing women.
Shjade wrote:Targaryen Ghiardie wrote:I'll break it down then, real simple. In my experience, women do not play men better than men. They can play decent men, but they do not play better men, because men have the added bonus of having a deeper frame of reference, in that they are men. They can play men all they like, I just don't think they're generally very good at it, just as I don't think men are generally very good at playing women.
Problem in this statement: defining "better player" as "realistic player."
"True to life" does not mean "better." "More accurate" does not mean "better." In RP, the better man is the one who makes the role work.
To use your earlier Navy SEAL example, I'm sure that SEAL could point out all kinds of technical problems with my portrayal of a SEAL. I'm also confident I'd still play a better SEAL than he could because I can write and this hypothetical SEAL, while entirely capable of killing me seven different ways with his thumb, has issues with creative use of language.
Would his SEAL character be more accurate than mine? Almost assuredly. Would mine still be better than his in RP? Fuck yes.
Subjective interpretation of what it takes to be "better" than someone else. You could have the most accurate interpretation of a man ever and still have your metaphoric ass handed to you by a woman with a less point-for-point outline of a man but a greater sense of how to craft a character and write a story.
Being a man doesn't make you better at writing one, especially when men, like any other large group of people, vary SO MUCH from individual to individual. Knowing yourself in no way makes you an expert on every man any more than a woman is an expert on every woman. You're fooling yourself.
Rip wrote:The debate of who plays a better male or whatever is pretty moot honestly,and not what this thread was about.The fact is,the better roleplayer will play the better role than the lesser roleplayer.Probably because they're a better writer,not because they have a better understanding of what it is to be that role.
The issue at hand was whether or not people have the the right to demand gender verification and defame people who aren't the gender of their character...I already knew the answer to the question,I was honestly just wondering how much of the community agrees with the likes of Cancifer and his followers.Since he was already outted as the person who is doing these things,yes he's the same one who is spreading rumors that I'm a female and that RL females shouldn't be playing assassins.Well,him and his followers...I personally wouldn't agree with them in any case.
I think I can safely assume that about 90% of the SL population is going to agree that women have the right to RP as men and vice versa.
However I also agree with some here,when it comes to relationships or sexual RP in general,whether it's OOC or IC,the other person has the right to know if their RP partner is male or female.Not everyone is comfortable with it,and in my opinion the decent thing to do is to either refrain from sexual RP and relationships,or be honest about your gender at least on a personal level to the people it may affect.
Again,thanks to all who posted.Very interesting points of view.
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