Points up to Hawts post and nods "that i agree with - btb panthers that actually play as they should btb. I want this kind of panther girl roleplayers too!
We have established in this thread that panther girls play panther girls because thats the role they chose and enjoy - not slave. So if you want btb panthers that dont run away after a month or two of roleplay, because they long to get back to what they wanted to play in sl in the first place hence destroying your immersion in Gor and ruining and wasting your rp time.
Then perhaps you should come up with other ways of interacting with said btb panthers than cap games that will end their game for good? You said yourself, thats how they END. Respect the players choices in role - unless agreed - sort of like the perma death thing is it not? It DID happen in the books that people interacted with free panthers, one could elaborate on that instead of always rushing to the end game. Its not like Gor is lacking slaves in generel as far as i know.
If all this could happen with cooperation from both sides then i can't see why the panther role can't be a completely valid btb role? You can call that tweaking of the role to fit what we think is fun, but are all the roles in Sl Gor not tweaked to rp and SL in the first place? None of them were meant for roleplay at all. The second you deviate the tiniest little bit from the canon then i can argue you are tweaking to suit your fun. Which i happen to think is valid enough, as long as we stay within what is believeable in the spirit of what was written by Norman. I dont think we dissagree on that really.
We still have a choice to live and let live though letting all roleplayers walk away from a scene with the feeling they had a good time. Mind you i am not implying that "having a good time" means winning a fight. But you can make an opponent loose and still respect the players wishes for their character in some way. IM's do work wonders in that sometimes.
I think i hear you support btb, is that not just another certification? One i happen to agree on too - but its still just that. Panters - all of them - ended up being showed to GE in buckets instead of seperating those in ge/btb like the rest of the community. Hence theres roleplayers left hanging with nowhere to go where they can get the rp they actually want in the role they prefer. Theres some left who do prefer the non pew pew panther game - believe it or not.
Sure you can do as Allison and just play by yourself - no band only a lone panther and that might work out nicely, but if you are going to do it realistically you will be spending an awful lot of time by yourself in the woods. I am sorry - i am not that interesting - i get bored with myself fairly quickly. I did it mind you...many times. But when you skin an animal for the tenth time with noone else nearby to interact it gets a bit meeeeh...why am i typing this; its great rp, but it was in my head before i typed too...i dont really need my thoughts texted...
I believe Violetta is trying to make the seperation for the panther players that the rest of you did years back with the btb/ge? If she succeeds i will cheer for her! Even if i am warrior princess... o.0