Twilight vs. The Hunger Games or meh?

Twilight vs. The Hunger Games or meh?

i liked "twilight" better
0
No votes
i liked "twilight" better
0
No votes
i like "the hunger games" better
7
19%
i like "the hunger games" better
7
19%
you can't compare the 2
4
11%
you can't compare the 2
4
11%
meh i don't care they both suck
2
6%
meh i don't care they both suck
2
6%
would not let my child see "the hunger"
1
3%
would not let my child see "the hunger"
1
3%
yes, would let my child see "the hunger" if reads the books first
3
8%
yes, would let my child see "the hunger" if reads the books first
3
8%
my child can see "the hunger" without reading books
1
3%
my child can see "the hunger" without reading books
1
3%
 
Total votes: 36
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Re: Twilight vs. The Hunger Games or meh?

Postby TreatRothschild » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:39 pm

Glaucon wrote:I think one of the tricky things about getting kids to read (boys especially) is the 'competition' books have, these days. Back when ol'man Glaucon was young, there was TV and there were comics, but TV was boring and comics ... well, you can only read them so many times. I got into reading because I wanted the stories. No games and DVD's. Books are harder to get into than much of the competition (even if they offer 'more', ultimately).

Of course, fact is that some people just aren't readers (not of fiction, anyway). Some people just prefer 'doing stuff' over immersing themselves in a story for hours. And maybe that's already the case when they are young... and no matter how what sort of book you set in their path, they will not pick it up for long.

You may have a point. When I was young, my family moved, pretty much every year. My father was career Air Force. So, I'd spend long hours in the car. Entertainment was books. I read everything in the car. From crappy Tom and Jerry "tiny book novelizations" to things like Mary Poppins, Dr. Doolittle and The Secret Garden. Books were entertainment and friends. :)

Hey cake girl, try him on some of the old Hard Science Fiction like Heinlein's juveniles (Have Space Suit Will Travel, Starship Troopers,etc..) He might like those.
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Re: Twilight vs. The Hunger Games or meh?

Postby ~pancake~ » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:41 pm

I might have to pick your brain about graphic novels Treat.

I know relatively nothing about graphic novels, I read a few Archie comics as a kid if there was nothing else and that's about it so I'm way out of my league. I'm trying to investigate graphic novel options for him to read but I've stumbled on what borders on anime porn. Not that I mind Hentai myself :lol: but I should probably find something a bit more appropriate for him.

I shouldn't hijack this thread anymore though.
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Re: Twilight vs. The Hunger Games or meh?

Postby Allison Millet » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:28 am

TreatRothschild wrote:Try to get him to read some David Eddings. He might like it.


Was that the guy who wrote the Sparhawk series? It sounds familiar.

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Re: Twilight vs. The Hunger Games or meh?

Postby Charlotte » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:49 am

ok I readily admit, I have neither seen nor read (nor will I) the vampire one.

However, even if 'the hunger games' has teen angst and fashion and the likes, there are underlying themes and genres that I can't imagine being discussed in a vampire love story.

The Hunger games is a dystopic genre, which already is a thought provoking plotline for tweens/teens.
I felt it was similar to "The Handmaids Tale" By Margaret Atwood, which won several awards and had the same 'post quasi-apocalyptic world, how do people survive theme'

It's in the same bracket as the "Red Dawn" film, or in Australia we had the "Tomorrow when the War began" series of novels, which were empowering for teenagers to read, and made people think about the consequences of their actions a lot more.

It discusses the threatening power a government might hold over its citizens, and really, given as its set in the former USA is a good thing as (from an outsider's perspective) some USA citizens don't seem to realise how much they're under the governments power (Just as much as some Aussie's dont, too)

If the reader is... enlightened enough to realise the faults in the behaviour of the main characters (Katniss' psychological weakness when strength is needed, the boy's general personality weakness', the alcoholic mans strength to overcome his addiction in order to act responsibly...

In short, however tweeny boppery, I'd say the Hunger Games is a good story for tweens and teens to read as it largely talks about stepping up, being a moral and ethically strong person, overcoming adversity etc. For those reasons alone, while nothing compared to Harry Potter for inspirational teen behaviour, its a good read.
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Re: Twilight vs. The Hunger Games or meh?

Postby Elle Couerblanc » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:58 am

Charlotte wrote:The Hunger games is a dystopic genre, which already is a thought provoking plotline for tweens/teens. I felt it was similar to "The Handmaids Tale" By Margaret Atwood, which won several awards and had the same 'post quasi-apocalyptic world, how do people survive theme'


When I read the book concept, The Handmaids Tale jumped out at me too. I haven't read the books but is the writing sophisticated enough to appeal to so called grown ups like me?
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Re: Twilight vs. The Hunger Games or meh?

Postby TreatRothschild » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:27 pm

Allison Millet wrote:
TreatRothschild wrote:Try to get him to read some David Eddings. He might like it.


Was that the guy who wrote the Sparhawk series? It sounds familiar.
Yup, Eddings wrote Sparhawk and the Belgariad.
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Re: Twilight vs. The Hunger Games or meh?

Postby Charlotte » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:22 am

Elle Couerblanc wrote:is the writing sophisticated enough to appeal to so called grown ups like me?


I'm torn for a fair response.
It's definitely not in the same literary realm as Handmaid's tale.
I think a good comparison would be tha these books are being studied by 12-14 yr olds wheras handmaid's tale often finds itself on university reading lists.

But I also don't think the author is trying to reach that standard, either.
It's certainly a good and easy read. The annoyances in the story are character flaws or weakness' as opposed to poor plot or weak writing -and if those char. flaws are a conscious choice of the author then she's a genius. If not consciously challenging the reader, then it's worse and more annoying than Edward Cullen's almost-conscious manipulation and forced dependance on Bella Swan.

Read it, just read it as an interesting idea, and light read, not pulitzer prize contender :)
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Re: Twilight vs. The Hunger Games or meh?

Postby Pelopidas » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:48 am

Read all Twilight books, read the first of the Hunger Games saga.

They both suck. I never believed, someone, anyone, could write worst than John Norman.

Humankind never ceases to amaze me. Hunger Games especially, not even Prize of Gor gave me so much frustration.
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Re: Twilight vs. The Hunger Games or meh?

Postby Danika Stenvaag » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:16 pm

hey there pelo... so let me see if i understand you correctly... are you saying you didn't like reading "the hunger games" - the first book? are you hungry to read the other 2 books?
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Re: Twilight vs. The Hunger Games or meh?

Postby Pelopidas » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:37 pm

Nope, on strict doctor's orders to "stop fucking around", as he put it.

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