Obamacare, What are your thoughts?

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Re: Obamacare, What are your thoughts?

Postby Mat » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:31 pm

The IRS when testifying before congress said that the IRS will not be involved in Obamacare in any way. There will be no audits or collections etc. I think this is a very good turn of events.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48990224
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Re: Obamacare, What are your thoughts?

Postby Resolver Bouchard » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:59 am

Mat wrote:The IRS when testifying before congress said that the IRS will not be involved in Obamacare in any way. There will be no audits or collections etc. I think this is a very good turn of events.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48990224


That article seems to pass over the key words in the quote:

In most cases


And the IRS should be enforcing the laws to the letter, if not they should be sacked.
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Re: Obamacare, What are your thoughts?

Postby Glaucon » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:51 am

Resolver Bouchard wrote:
Mat wrote:The IRS when testifying before congress said that the IRS will not be involved in Obamacare in any way. There will be no audits or collections etc. I think this is a very good turn of events.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48990224


That article seems to pass over the key words in the quote:

In most cases


And the IRS should be enforcing the laws to the letter, if not they should be sacked.


The USA is a funny place. All these parts of the government vie for influence, money and power, and work at their rep. Politicians come and go, and it isn't like the UK, where the prime minister's party has a majority and so the party in charge can pretty much do what they like. So, it isn't so strange that one organization would seek to distance itself from a meassure that has become very controversial. In the UK, the person saying such a thing would already have been fired. In the USA, they can do that and get away with it.
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Re: Obamacare, What are your thoughts?

Postby Mat » Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:45 pm

It seems that yet more companies are coming to the conclusion that Obamacare is bad for their business and are talking about things like cutting employees hours so that they are not eligible for the health care of just not offering it all and paying the fine instead.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/franchisors-warn-obamacare-will-halve-profits/article/2507920#.UFJFIlFcg_d
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Re: Obamacare, What are your thoughts?

Postby Resolver Bouchard » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:01 pm

Mat wrote:It seems that yet more companies are coming to the conclusion that Obamacare is bad for their business and are talking about things like cutting employees hours so that they are not eligible for the health care of just not offering it all and paying the fine instead.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/franchisors-warn-obamacare-will-halve-profits/article/2507920#.UFJFIlFcg_d


Who gives a shit about the businesses.

There will be people going without healthcare and more will be forced into shitty part time jobs so some slimey owner can maximize his profits.

Your country doesn't work. At least slave owners cared a little about the health of their slaves.
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Re: Obamacare, What are your thoughts?

Postby Mat » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:03 pm

Resolver Bouchard wrote:
Mat wrote:It seems that yet more companies are coming to the conclusion that Obamacare is bad for their business and are talking about things like cutting employees hours so that they are not eligible for the health care of just not offering it all and paying the fine instead.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/franchisors-warn-obamacare-will-halve-profits/article/2507920#.UFJFIlFcg_d


Who gives a shit about the businesses.


I do, and many do.
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Re: Obamacare, What are your thoughts?

Postby Mat » Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:04 pm

It seems that atleast some stimulus to the economy will be done threw Obamacare.... New estimates predict that 80 million hours will be spent trying to comply with this law.
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Re: Obamacare, What are your thoughts?

Postby Glaucon » Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:59 pm

Mat wrote:It seems that atleast some stimulus to the economy will be done threw Obamacare.... New estimates predict that 80 million hours will be spent trying to comply with this law.


As opposed to most of the money going to health care being spent on administration under the current system?
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Re: Obamacare, What are your thoughts?

Postby Mat » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:01 pm

Glaucon wrote:
Mat wrote:It seems that atleast some stimulus to the economy will be done threw Obamacare.... New estimates predict that 80 million hours will be spent trying to comply with this law.


As opposed to most of the money going to health care being spent on administration under the current system?
That really will not change there are some caps now but they will just allow care prices to be inflated so that they can collect more money for that administrative etc costs.
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Re: Obamacare, What are your thoughts?

Postby Glaucon » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:05 pm

Who knows? It is not what the proponents claim, just what your party claims.

Of course, your party offers no real alternative, except secret reciply Romneycare 2.0 that will magically pay for itself.

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