Settle a Bet

Vote for the correct statement.

1. How come it is raining out?
26
45%
1. How come it is raining out?
26
45%
2. How comes it is raining out?
3
5%
2. How comes it is raining out?
3
5%
 
Total votes: 58
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Re: Settle a Bet

Postby TreatRothschild » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:51 pm

Adi wrote:
TreatRothschild wrote:You need a third choice:

Why is it raining out?

The other two just sound wrong to me.


Actually you need a fourth. Modern English prizes brevity and conciseness. It should be "How come it is raining?" since it never rains "in".

My pet peeve is "The reason is because." It's redundant. "The reason is <insert reason>" or "It is because <insert reason>". You don't need both.

/me cracks his neck and says a bit preciously "Glad we got that sorted out."

Unless you are in one of those giant, enclosed spaces with their own weather systems. Then, it is quite possible for it to rain "in", isn't it? ;)
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Re: Settle a Bet

Postby Josef of Ar » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:27 am

Rayzor McAuley wrote:Both selections sound like southern redneckisms.


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Re: Settle a Bet

Postby Dream Resistance » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:05 am

My mom HATES when people say "These ones" or "Those ones". If forced to, "how come" seems more proper but...its a choice between evils to my ear. Neither is all that eloquent.
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Re: Settle a Bet

Postby Victor. » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:30 am

Well, so after reading the effusions on that between nightfall and daybreak I have to declare the poll absolutely void - since all the English folks (Who are pretty much the only one who matter when it comes to a question about the ENGLISH language. *high5* Dren) - agree with me and the others are yankees. :loOsEr:

Glad we settled that! :lol:
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Re: Settle a Bet

Postby iJudas » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:01 am

Neither statement is correct. Not in English anway.

'How come it is raining outside?' might be a better way for saying it.

Which of the following is true:

The yolk of an egg is white

The yolk of an egg are white

PS - You American people killed the English language!!
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Re: Settle a Bet

Postby Willow » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:04 am

The first. In rather old-fashioned English, you'd say "how does it come to be raining outside?" This naturally gets chopped down to size a bit in actual use, to "how come it's raining outside?"
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Re: Settle a Bet

Postby Kissie » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:25 am

Inglorious wrote:Neither statement is correct. Not in English anway.

'How come it is raining outside?' might be a better way for saying it.

Which of the following is true:

The yolk of an egg is white

The yolk of an egg are white

PS - You American people killed the English language!!

:ninja: -pops in to be the smart ass- Neither is right, yolk is yellow. :lol:
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Re: Settle a Bet

Postby Stong Shepherd » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:20 am

The oldest reference for "how come" in the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) is an entry in Bartlett's Dictionary of Americanisms published in 1848. Although the OED calls "how come" an American coinage, the entry in Bartlett's indicates it originated in England: "Doubtless an English phrase, brought over by the original settlers."
"How come" is believed to be short for "how did it come about that," "how is it that," or "how comes it."
A search of online e-books turned up examples of these older phrases:
How comes it then that this her cold so great is not dissolved through my so hot desire . . . (British poet Edmund Spenser in "Sonnet 30," 1611)
How comes it that the Church has attained such greatness in temporal power . . . (Machiavelli, in The Prince, 1513)
Although "how come" is a legitimate substitute for "why," it's informal; the OED labels it as colloquial.

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Re: Settle a Bet

Postby Victor. » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:41 am

Hmmm *mutters* 19:3....

How about we settle for a draw, Darling? :hrm:
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Re: Settle a Bet

Postby Torrid Streeter » Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:02 am

Victor. wrote:Hmmm *mutters* 19:3....

How about we settle for a draw, Darling? :hrm:



Actually it would probably be a draw if I had offered option #3 which would have been BOTH.

How comes I didnt think of that? :lips:
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