Harlequin wrote:That's a bit whack.
"By being a slave I will not only RP in a narrow band that's already difficult due to having few options, but also will be a tour guide and greeter."
I don't understand why it's so hard for sims to accommodate slave RPers. Is it -that- hard to make fun RP that isn't sex-doll and sim staff for slaves?
It's bizarre as hell, like somehow Gorean Slaves aren't playing characters like they would in other sims. Somehow there's a bunch of gorean sim admins who have for whatever reason decided that slaves/slave RPers are different than RPers in any other type of RP. I just don't get it. At all.
The fact is that yes, most people in SL Gor don't consider that slave RPers are just RPers like others. And it will never stop because for most of these slaves RPers, Gor is only a more exotic environment to experience domination/soumission, discipline and bondage fantasies with if possible, a master. Their focus is not the role play experience with a character which will grow, evolve, develop etc, but the DS feeling and they want to be treated like subs, IC and OOC. Their submission is the only thing they want to develop, RP is a tool for that.
For many people in SL Gor, the idea of Gorean RP as a slave character is just about serving drinks, welcome visitors, perform chores, serve and serve. In fact for those people, slaves are the window dressing in a scene, never a full active part of the scene. If they try to be a central character, they are princesses, whore attentions.
When in books, Norman didn't write paragraphs in describing a chore in details, this point doesn't count when you play a slave in most sims. It's the essential of the RP you get. I asked some slavers why chores were imposed with a certain way to RP them + obligation to record. Answer was always: "for slaves have something to RP".
I don't mind chores when I RP a slave, but I want to have the choice to RP effectively them - as background in a scene with another RPer, when the focus will be put on the interactions with this RPer - or FTB them and so, RP the outcome with the guy who would come check, emoting about what his character should notice. Not to mention that making with the mundane the essential of your RP is boring. These things can be just part of the background, something your character is considering doing, daily, without you need to RP them every time you log.
But in fact, it's even more dramatic. If you play a slave in these Old School Gor sims, be aware that at the end, you stop being considered truly like an adult, mature and able as role player to make your own choices. You are a little thing that those other people playing a free must protect like a kid (but you won't be protected against the crap they require that you RP).
For example, you may find such mention in slave rules:
5. Any slave may be punished for misbehavior by any Free person who is a Citizen of ... .
If the owner restricts punishments except by himself, the slave should not be in the city unless at the heel of her owner. Compensation may be claimed for damage.
- Visitors may report displeasing behavior to the slave’s owner for discipline.
**COMMENT: This is an OOC measure to prevent abuse of slaves by random abusers (i.e. non-Gorean, who abuse just because they can under the guise of this being Gor), which is less likely to occur among the citizens within the Home Stone.
Exactly, you play a slave, you are so, a potential victim of abuse. In these people's mind, you are not capable to say no, to tell some idiot, OOCly, that he can go fuck himself
Too, when I was in Sais, I inquired about the reason for their long and complex sale slave process (but Sais is not the same sim imposing it) I have been told that before, slaves who had been sold were back to the kennels, hurt, with negative feelings, after 15 days, because the owner was a jerk, was never online, or had left SL....
It's really treating and considering slave rpers like children
So, here, the NCs which illustrate this point, that I got in my slave package (it's never in the OOC sim laws), the day when a friend and I tried the Sais experience (she got captured by a visitor before entering in the city, I RPed 3 days and I gave up. If you have some time to kill, enjoy...
First note, probably written in the mind that your principal goal when you start playing a slave is to find your dream master, is a notice listing a bunch of advices which will help you to make the good choice (remember? you're a kid and not mature to show good sense by yourself):
We welcome you as slaves of the village and hope that your experience has been an exciting one so far. Hopefully, you've been spending time getting to know everybody and have thus far started to form relationships and bonds with all the players involved in our village.
The intake period will have allowed you to immediately start role-playing and serving in the village. The great thing about the institution of this period of time makes it so that people, other players, do recognize you as new and can introduce themselves as they see you. The number system allows you the ability to feel as though you have earned the name and clothing when you finally do make it through the first part of initiation. The uniformity of the intake experience also integrates you in to our society as a slave, not a unique individual, though you are, you are now simply new property to the village and other players can know and differentiate to treat you accordingly.
Sais is a full submersion Gorean RP sim and in all ways and means we try to give each of our players that true experience.
From this point you will have hopefully spent some time on your relationships within the village. Perhaps, you've started to form the bonds that can come with your service and rp here. You might or might not be passing from "Intake Slave" to "Kennel Slave". For those of you that have made it thus far, we are proud to have you with us and can't wait to see how your role-play progresses.
It is at this point that the administration and management team start to consider where you are at in your service. Some of you come to be village slaves and others of you are seeking personal owners. While we do spend time working with our village slaves and securing their happiness we also take in to consideration those that will pass from us to a personal owner.
In that same vein we have put together some questions and thoughts that should, perhaps, come to mind as you start to consider personal owners. We see far too many girls pass on to owners that they find they have nothing in common with and in the end we end up with unhappy slaves, unhappy owners, and negative feelings that come from it.
Sais has instituted some measure to assist you in heading toward a personal owner if that is what you choose. Some of these measures include: A "no sale" period of ten days within an owner tagging you for personal purchase. This will allow you to get to know the person/s you have decided might be a potential personal owner. Also, we require that personal owners be in the Sais group unless other arrangements are made. This will assure that your personal owner has some lasting power and you will not be moved from place to place to place.
Outside of these measures we have also compiled a small list of things you need to think about and depending upon your closeness to your potential owner/s, some things you might want to ask them. Mind you, this is only advice, but it might save your from potentially bad situations. Knowledge is the key to happiness and only you can make you happy so be wise about your developing relationships. We would rather you be completely happy because of careful selection than see you disappear because you ended up emotionally distressed by a haphazard one.
Thoughts to consider and questions are listed below. Please feel free to add to them and most definitely be vocal with your potential owner. They are not mind-readers, and only you can make them aware of your concerns.
1. How often is this person online?
** Do they match up to yours and are you willing to live with the absence if they don't?
2. Do you expect a RL involvement?
3. Do they expect a RL involvement?
4. Will you voice, phone, cam?
** The above questions are hugely important to figure out in a quick manner. Please make the other person aware of your limitations and expectations in this regard. Be extremely careful about offering personal information unless you completely trust this person. Be wary of a person that expects these things from you or attempts to force you to do these things. Report anybody that pushes and bullies you. Also, keep aware of people that want you to do these things but are unwilling to do the same.
5. How many are already on their chain?
6. How many more will they take after you?
7. Are you going to be happy with others on the chain?
8. What are these girls/boys like that are already on the chain?
9. Does this person have a free companion?
** It is extremely rare to find a personal that does not have others on the chain, nowadays. If you get easily jealous perhaps you should reconsider why you are on Gor, but outside that, you need to know how much time the person you considering will be spending trying to keep all their slaves or their free companion happy and balanced. Either be willing to accept a chain or stay as you are or you will end up miserable.
10. What are this person's expectations of you as a person?
11. Does this person have the same Gorean values as you?
12. Does this person have the same personal values?
** These are simple but very important. If your thoughts and ideals don't mesh disappointment will commence. Just remember, sometimes opposites do attract so these aren't always for sure but they are a good guidelines to understanding the person you've chosen.
13. Is this person overly dramatic in their role-play or out of character moments?
14. Does this person constantly change their mind in or out of character?
15. Does this person match up to you on a role-play basis?
** There is nothing harder than dealing with somebody that doesn't know what they want. If you are constantly up in the air about where you stand then you should consider what your Gorean life will be like with them. If you are too different you might have a hard time finding anything you have in common.
16. Does this person meet your needs online? (offline is something to be thought about on another level)
17. Is this person's motivations to you purely sexual?
** Some might want only a purely sexual relationship and your needs might be very few but make sure if you need -more- that this person matches up to those expectations. Some need more than a sexual relationship and require a whole huge package in the person they take a personal from. Make sure that they can meet your needs or at least meet you half way.
These are only a few thoughts, and there might seem to be a whole ton of things but you need to consider every detail to maintain the happiness and integrity of your experience. There is no reason that your SL and Gor experience should be diminished by lack of quality or putting yourself with people or persons that will inevitably cause you distress and dis-harmony.
Please remember that there are people that are willing to talk things through if you having a hard time. There is a great support system within the walls of Sais that start with its slaves, its free, and its admin.
Proceed in all joy and happiness!
Sais Kennel Staff
Here the famous process (made in the interest of the fragile poor little thing who plays the slave for she didn't get her little heart broken by some SL-Gor jerk....
Thank you for your interest in one of our kennel slaves. It is important to us that you purchase the finest quality slave and are happy with the purchase. For that reason we have implemented a tagging process that will help you to get to know your slave that you are interested in. Please review the process so you understand your rights and responsibilities.
Tagging of a slave is the prospective buyer's stated interest in the slave. It does not guarantee a sale, just your interest.
Once a slave has been tagged, she/he shall remain so until:
a) two hands (10 days) have passed.
b) the prospective buyer revokes the tag.
c) the kennel staff revokes the tag.
A slave may be tagged by more than one free person. At the end of the last expiring tag, one of the following will happen:
a) one or more of the tags may be revoked by the taggers.
b) one or more of the tags may be revoked by the kennel staff.
c) the kennel staff will determine which free to sell the slave to.
d) there will be an auction to determine the buyer. (no real lindens exchanged)
Only two slaves may be tagged by the same person at one time. In other words . . . you cannot have three tags down at once. Only two.
The ultimate decision to sell any slave shall be the sole responsibility of the head slaver or his/her designee. This decision may not be appealed and it is final.
Once the sale has been finalized, the HOB Kennel collar will be removed by a slaver and the new owner can then place their own collar. Until the sale is finalized, the slave remains the property of the kennels. They are required to serve all free as they had been doing. They may hand their leash to the free who has tagged them but may NOT add anyone as secondary owner on their collar, except slavers of House of Bohica Kennels. Kennel girls may ONLY wear the kennel camisk if they have earned it. If there is anything you wish to do with the slave and are not sure if you are allowed, ask a slaver.
The HOB Kennels shall have the right of first refusal if the slave is to be sold within 6 hands (30 days) of the sale. We have invested time and money into the slave and want to be able to purchase them back should you not find them pleasing.
OOC: We want you and the slave to be happy in the new relationship. Feedback from the slave will be considered before a decision to sell is made. Ultimately, the slaves are just that... slaves. They have no decision in to whom they are sold.
Just edifying but I have no illusion, Sais is not an exception... But if you chat with the slave rpers who joined these sims, they will tell you they are happy happy. Those non happy have just a very restricted choice of decent sims if they don't want to bother with this crap and get respected as role players.