Chores - Not a big part of slave RP?

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2 Part Poll: How much time do you spend on chores? Do you enjoy chores?

I spend less than 20% of my RP time doing chores
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20%
I spend less than 20% of my RP time doing chores
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20%
I spend 21-50% of my RP time doing chores
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6%
I spend 21-50% of my RP time doing chores
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6%
I spend 51-80% of my RP time doing chores
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1%
I spend 51-80% of my RP time doing chores
1
1%
I spend more than 80% of my RP time doing chores
1
1%
I spend more than 80% of my RP time doing chores
1
1%
1) I enjoy slave chore RP
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1%
1) I enjoy slave chore RP
1
1%
I enjoy slave chore RP
8
10%
I enjoy slave chore RP
8
10%
I dislike slave chore RP
8
10%
I dislike slave chore RP
8
10%
 
Total votes: 80
Arwyn Quandry
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Re: Chores - Not a big part of slave RP?

Postby Arwyn Quandry » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:24 am

I spend quite a bit of time doing "chores", but mine aren't the typical ones. I'm never given a list of them to do - rather, I make up something to keep myself busy and allow myself to interact with others. They're not things like cleaning and such, but more interesting, involved tasks.

Recently, I took up the task of RP'ing making a map of the city we were new in, walking around town, asking people where things were and scribbling on a bit of paper. Then I made up orders to discover what the various shops sold and went around asking the various shopkeepers about their wares, which created some interesting conversations and helped me introduce myself and the house I'm part of to the city. Sometimes I'll have her go out and do the shopping for the house, buying food and anything else which might be needed.

My character also spies - she appears to just be sitting around, maybe sewing, cleaning something or sunbathing, but is actually listening in on conversations to report back to her Master.

Chores shouldn't be chores. They should be fun tasks which enhance your RP and give you the chance to meet new people.
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Re: Chores - Not a big part of slave RP?

Postby farah » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:15 am

I find the whole concept a little interesting and varied.

IF the note carded, solo performed chores were being used to enhance role play by laying a foundation or otherwise, then sure maybe.

IF the note carded, solo performed chores were being used as a SIMS type act AND the Free had to perform them as well, bakers have to bake, butchers have to butcher, then sure maybe.

IF the note carded, solo performed chores were being used as a way to educate and enhance role play skills for a slave in training, then sure maybe.

But really, how often does the above happen? More often, its to give a slave something to do, when at its heart, SL Gor is someone's recreational time.

When I have ample time to log in and out, I will role play out bathing myself, getting made up, emptying things out in the home on a daily basis, on a SIMS type level, so I do chores as part of my process. But the note card chores are mostly useless, except for the reasons why I said so.
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Re: Chores - Not a big part of slave RP?

Postby Meriah » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:58 pm

Bara Mayako wrote:This happened to a friend of mine about 2 months ago in an unnamed sim. The sim, for the record, has nothing in the rules about notecarding chores:

She logged on and her master, the sim slaver, IM'd her and told her they were all in a new castle that had been put on the sim. So she went over there, greeted the free and knelt (she was the only slave player present). Listening to the chat, she soon realised that everyone was in an OOC discussion on what to do with the castle, did it belong on the sim, etc., etc. So she stood up and joined the conversation. Her master made her kneel, and she released herself again, IM'ing him that this was an OOC discussion so she didn't feel obliged to. Her master grabbed the leash on her collar, dragged her to the kennel, and ordered her to clean the kennel from top to bottom, sending him a notecard of at least so many lines and so many posts. She said no, she didn't do notecard chores, and he had no right to try to punish her for OOC actions. He told her notecarding chores was part of being a Gorean slave, that if she didn't like it, she didn't belong in Gor, and she could leave. She IM'd the sim admin and he said it was an OOC matter between her and her master, and did not want to get involved. I would provide an anonymised logfile of her conversation with the master, to prove this happened, but it's all in Dutch since she and her master were Dutch.

This player has left Gor because of this and similar experiences.

Now, the question is ... are the quotes you provide from the books about slaves happily doing chores together, or what happened to this player, more typical for what slaves experience in SL Gor these days?


I think note-carded chores done alone are an ooc hardship placed on another SL player, more than they are a tool for role play. It is one thing to do chores in a tavern, where there are others to interact with, quite another when you are forced to fill a note card that will untimely be meaningless in the grand scheme of... role play.

Granted, I still refer to free as Master or Mistress when out of character. I do not have too, but there are so many who insist upon it and I have found that doing otherwise simply creates drama for me. For my Master's part he allows me to voice my opinion out of character. I suppose I am fortunate in that.

Sadly, I find out of character punishments and chores to be all to common in my experience. To my lasting horror I had a Master who had a floor that would get dirty as avatars crossed it. In order to clean it a slave had to attach a brush to their hand, remain in the crouched position and guide the brush with their camera from first person. Though I thought this was a perfectly reasonable punishment, the fact that I had to do this for an hour a day regardless of my service to Master was more than a bit annoying.
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Re: Chores - Not a big part of slave RP?

Postby Sasi » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:49 am

Meriah wrote:Granted, I still refer to free as Master or Mistress when out of character. I do not have too, but there are so many who insist upon it and I have found that doing otherwise simply creates drama for me. For my Master's part he allows me to voice my opinion out of character. I suppose I am fortunate in that.


So, because some jerks give you shit when you dont call them master/mistress in OOC (funny how some people need to flatter their ego in a virtual world, probably to compensate their RL frustrations) you crawl in their Ims? And how do you want to be respected if you dont respect yourself enough to refuse to act in a way that apparently, you do not enjoy? And are you not an adult, knowing that she wants and enough mature to refuse to comply to something which doesnt give you fun? Forced to fill notecard? Do you have a knife on the throat?

Even when I played a slave, I have always made clear that I would not act like a slave in OOC. I laughed at the face of the few people who gave me shit for this reason and sometimes, muted them. If they create drama, they are the author of the drama, ignore them, their position cannot be defended in any role play sim.

And I dont know where you RP, but if many people in OOC, insist to be addressed with a title, maybe are you in a lifestyle sim or in a sim with a bunch of crap idiots mixing IC and OOC. Are they worthy of your time and RP, you think?
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Re: Chores - Not a big part of slave RP?

Postby Anarch Allegiere » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:24 am

Meriah wrote:For my Master's part he allows me to voice my opinion out of character. I suppose I am fortunate in that.


Why not In Character too? I'd get bored out of my mind pretty fast with the slaves I own if it wasn't for the fact that the ones that I do keep around often come up with intelligent conversation and proove themselves useful beyond spreading their legs.

It's sadly the typical bobbing 'yes Master'-slave syndrome, for some reason many slave roleplayers in SL Gor seem to believe that in their role they're not allowed to say or do anything besides obeying and keeping their mouths shut. Which is obviously not incorrect either if such would've been the wishes of the owner, but it does take too much live and personality away from the slave characters that you might as well just buy a prim slave or use an NPC slave instead then...
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Re: Chores - Not a big part of slave RP?

Postby Consuelo » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:37 pm

Anarch Allegiere wrote:
Meriah wrote:For my Master's part he allows me to voice my opinion out of character. I suppose I am fortunate in that.


Why not In Character too? I'd get bored out of my mind pretty fast with the slaves I own if it wasn't for the fact that the ones that I do keep around often come up with intelligent conversation and proove themselves useful beyond spreading their legs.

It's sadly the typical bobbing 'yes Master'-slave syndrome, for some reason many slave roleplayers in SL Gor seem to believe that in their role they're not allowed to say or do anything besides obeying and keeping their mouths shut. Which is obviously not incorrect either if such would've been the wishes of the owner, but it does take too much live and personality away from the slave characters that you might as well just buy a prim slave or use an NPC slave instead then...


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Re: Chores - Not a big part of slave RP?

Postby Keiser Koba » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:58 am

Ruling out chores as boring or without RP-value is narrowminded and uncreative. I'm no slave, but I do chores all the time. I brew, I hunt, I mend my sails, I chop wood, I fuck slaves, I forge a sword, I gutter fish and brew mead and so on. And every time I do it, it ends up with some sort of roleplay with others. RP can evolve from planning and taking orders for a new sword to a new warrior or selling the mead to insane high prices and so on.

Writing up chores if you are alone however should be utterly voluntarily and done because you enjoy writing, not because some wannabe Dom of a sim owner wrote it in the RP rules for his sim ... or any other wannabe Dom for that matter.
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Re: Chores - Not a big part of slave RP?

Postby All Sunday » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:22 am

Keiser Koba wrote:Ruling out chores as boring or without RP-value is narrowminded and uncreative. I'm no slave, but I do chores all the time. I brew, I hunt, I mend my sails, I chop wood, I fuck slaves, I forge a sword, I gutter fish and brew mead and so on. And every time I do it, it ends up with some sort of roleplay with others. RP can evolve from planning and taking orders for a new sword to a new warrior or selling the mead to insane high prices and so on.

Writing up chores if you are alone however should be utterly voluntarily and done because you enjoy writing, not because some wannabe Dom of a sim owner wrote it in the RP rules for his sim ... or any other wannabe Dom for that matter.


Full agreement :)

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